The picture on the left is a present day view of Dealey Plaza taken from either Reunion Tower or the Hyatt Regency.

It shows how small Dealey Plaza really is, and how there could have easily been a shooter at the opposite side of the plaza and still hit the President as his limousine came down Elm Street.

The picture on the right is a model used by the Warren Commission.

It shows the vantage point Abraham Zapruder had and (indicated by the black line) the view he had at the time of the throat shot.

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Oswald discrepencies

In one statement Oswald apparently confirms in Fritz’s office that he had gotten into a white stationwagon (approx. 15 minutes after the assassination), yet in another statement they claim he said “It wasn't actually true as to how I got home. I took a bus, but due to a traffic jam, I left the bus and got a taxicab, by which means I actually arrived at my residence."

Oswald could have never confirmed getting into that white stationwagon and then saying "That station wagon belongs to Mrs. Ruth Paine. Don't try to tie her into this. She had nothing to do with it.” when he knows very well that Paine drove a green stationwagon.

He may not have recognized the make and model, but I’m sure he could tell the difference between white and green.

One of the more interesting things said during a Nov. 23rd interrogation:

“I didn't tell Buell Wesley Frazier anything about bringing back some curtain rods.” … “I did carry a package to the Texas School Book Depository.

I carried my lunch, a sandwich and fruit, which I made at Paine's house. . . . I had nothing personal against John Kennedy."

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Now keep in mind that, without an attorney present to defend and protect him, anything Oswald said during his interrogations could easily been manipulated/changed to fit the prosecution’s case. Several claims were made over the years that all the notes taken during his interrogations were destroyed after he was killed by Jack Ruby. I never believed this, because interrogation notes, especially in this case, should have been preserved for the national archives and public records.

UNLESS everything he said pertained to his innocence.

Since there have been lots of claims that all the notes and reports were destroyed after November 24th, I can only speculate to the validity of the above interrogation notes posted on Ratical.org. Again, I highly doubt the notes were all destroyed, because if they were … how did some of his statements find the media? Were some of them leaked to the press?

[SOURCE: https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/LHO.html ]

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We have the luxury now of being able to easily look up all the media clips and sound bites available of Lee Oswald.

It gives us the oppertunity to listen to his voice, to hear the way he uses words, how he chooses to speak eloquently and respectfully.

I therefore have a tendency to believe "...by which means I actually arrived at my residence" is the way he would have chosen to say it.

Did he actually say it? Will we ever know for certain? But in my opinion it sounds like him.

 

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James Worrell                                       vol. II, p. 193

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James Worrell was standing outside of the TSBD, with his back towards the building ... he was insistant on seeing the President and tried so on numerous occassions. His statements were put into question because he had trouble telling his story with sufficient clarity.

He also changed some of his statements here and there because he was unsure of himself.

He stated, for instance, that he had seen the Kennedys at Love Field, then took a bus downtown to see them better there where he just happened to find the perfect spot to stand and be the only witness to see what he saw.

Below is part of the testimony he gave before the Warren Commission in March of 1964.

 

Mr. WORRELL - "Didn't get too good a view of the President either, I missed out on there too. But as they went by, they got, oh at least another 50, 75 feet on past me, and then I heard the shots."

Mr. SPECTER - "How many shots did you hear?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Four."

Mr. SPECTER - "Did you observe anything at about that time?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Yes, sir, I looked up and saw the rifle, but I would say about 6 inches of it."

Mr. SPECTER - "And where did you see the rifle?"

Mr. WORRELL - "I am not going--I am not too sure but I told the FBI it was either in the fifth or the sixth floor on the far corner, on the east side."

Mr. SPECTER - "Now looking at the picture which we have identified as Commission Exhibit No. 360. which is where you have drawn an "X," can you indicate the line of vision which you followed to the point where the rifle was to the best of your ability to recollect?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Well, when I heard the first shot it was too loud to be a firecracker, I knew that, because there was quite a big boom, and I don't know, just out of nowhere, I looked up like that, just straight up."

Mr. SPECTER - "Indicating you looked straight back over your head, raising your head to look over your body at the 90 degree angle?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Yes; and I saw it for the second time and I looked back to the motorcade."

Mr. SPECTER - "What did you observe at that time?"

Mr. WORRELL - "I Saw about 6 inches of the gun, the rifle. It had--well it had a regular long barrel but it had a long stock and you could only see maybe 4 inches of the barrel, and I could see--"

Mr. SPECTER - "Were you able to observe any of the stock?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Oh, yes."

Mr. SPECTER - "How much of the stock were you able to observe?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Just very little, just about 2 inches."

Mr. SPECTER - "How many inches of the barrel then could you observe protruding beyond the stock?"

Mr. WORRELL - "About 4 inches, I would say, not very much."

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[ Ibid. this would mean he saw the whole barrel (4 inches) and then the first 2 inches of the stock, which contradicts the barrel length that Amos Euins saw and puts the short-barreled Mannlicher-Carcano in the window ]

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Mr. SPECTER - "Now, at the time of the second shot were you able to observe anything at that precise instant?"

Mr. WORRELL - "You mean as to firing it."

Mr. SPECTER - "As to anything at all. What did you see when the second shot went off?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Well, I looked to see where he was aiming and after the second shot and I have seen the President slumping down in the seat, and--"

Mr. SPECTER - "Did you see the President slump in his seat after the second shot?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Uh, huh. And about that--"

Mr. SPECTER - "Did you look up and see the rifle between the first and the second shots?

Mr. WORRELL - "Yes, sir. And saw the firing on the second and then before he could get a shot I was--I took in everything but especially the car, the President's car, and " saw him slumping, and I looked up again and turned around and started running and saw it fire a third time, and then--"

Mr. SPECTER - "When did you see it fire a third time, when you looked up, the time you just described?"

Mr. WORRELL - "When I was, I did it all in one motion, I looked up, turned around and ran, pivoted."

Mr. SPECTER - "What did you hear, if anything, after that?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Just a lot of commotion, everybody was screaming and saying "duck."

Mr. SPECTER - "After the third shot, did you hear a fourth shot?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Oh, yes. Just as I got to the corner of Exhibit 360, I heard the fourth shot."

Mr. SPECTER - "Well, did these four shots come close together or how would you describe the timing in general on those?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Succession."

Mr. SPECTER - "Were they very fast?"

Mr. WORRELL - "They were right in succession."

 

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Mr. WORRELL - "Okay. Then I turned the corner, went right down beside the building on the sidewalk and when I got to the corner--"

Mr. SPECTER - "Corner of what?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Of this building."

Mr. SPECTER - "Of the Texas School Book Depository Building?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Yes."

Mr. SPECTER - "And what did you do there?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Cut directly across, kind of at an angle."

Mr. SPECTER - "Across Houston Street as you have drawn the red line there?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Yes, and I rested there, I was out of breath, I smoke too much, short winded."

Mr. SPECTER - "Will you mark that "Y" where you stopped and rested and tell us how long you stopped there?"

(Witness marking.)

Mr. WORRELL - "How long?"

Mr. SPECTER - "Yes, sir."

Mr. WORRELL - "I was there approximately 3 minutes before I saw this man come out the back door here."

 

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Mr. SPECTER - "Okay,. Now, describe as best you can the man whom you have testified you saw at point "Z."

Mr. WORRELL - "Describe his appearance?"

Mr. SPECTER - "Yes. Start by telling us how tall he was, to the best of your ability to recollect and estimate?"

Mr. WORRELL - "To the it is going to be within 3 inches, 5-7 to 5-10."

Mr. SPECTER - "What is your best estimate as to his weight?"

Mr. WORRELL - "155 to 165."

Mr. SPECTER - "What is your best estimate as to his height?"

Mr. WORRELL - "5-7, 5-10."

Mr. SPECTER - "Pardon me, your best estimate as to his age."

Mr. WORRELL - "Well, the way he was running., I would say he was in his late twenties or middle I mean early thirties. Because he was fast moving on."

Mr. SPECTER - "Of what race was he?"

Mr. WORRELL - "White."

Mr. SPECTER - "Can you describe the characteristics of his hair?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Black."

Mr. SPECTER - "Did he have--"

Mr. WORRELL - "Well, I will say brunette."

Mr. SPECTER - "Did he have a full head of hair, a partial head of hair, or what?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Well, see, I didn't see his face, I just saw the back of his head and it was full in the back. I don't know what the front looked like. But it was full in the back.”

Mr. SPECTER - "What clothes did the man have on?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Dark, like a jacket like that."

Mr. SPECTER - "Indicating a dark gray jacket?"

Mr. WORRELL - "No, no. It was a jacket like that."

Mr. SPECTER - "A suit jacket?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Yes."

Mr. SPECTER - "Or was it a sports jacket?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Sports jacket."

Mr. SPECTER - "Did not have on matching coat and trousers?"

Mr. WORRELL - "No."

Mr. SPECTER - "Was it dark in color or light?"

Mr. WORRELL - "It was dark in color. I don't know whether it was blue, black, or brown, but it was dark, and he had light pants. And that is all I can say on his clothes, except his coat was open and kind of flapping back in the breeze when he was running."

 

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Senator COOPER - "Did you notice where this man you have described later as running away from the building, did you see him come out of the building?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Yes, sir."

Senator COOPER - "Where?"

Mr. WORRELL - "At the back entrance. Approximately where I put the mark "Z."

Senator COOPER - "Was he running all the time you saw him?"

Mr. WORRELL - "Yes, sir, he sure was."

Senator COOPER - "That is all."

 

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Mr. SPECTER - "Mr. Worrell, we have a report of the Federal Bureau of Investigation which contains a purported interview with you, designated as report of Robert P. Gemberling dated November 30, 1963, which has this statement:  "He"--referring to you--" stated that last night when he saw photographs of Lee Harvey Oswald on television he felt this was the person he had seen running away from the building. He stated this person did not look back but he was certain this was a white person since he had a profile view." My question, first of all, to you: Did you have a profile view of the man who ran away from the building that you described?"

Mr. WORRELL - "No, sir."

Mr. SPECTER - "The second question is, did you tell the FBI that you had a profile view?"

Mr. WORRELL - "No, sir, I sure didn't."

Mr. SPECTER - "Did you tell the FBI agent who interviewed you, that you felt that this person was Lee Harvey Oswald?"

Mr. WORRELL - "I don't know if I did or not."

Mr. SPECTER - "Did you see anyone else leave the building, that is the Texas School Book Depository Building, except the man you have already described to us?"

Mr. WORRELL - "No, sir."

 

[ it would seem someone in the FBI was trying to mess with Mr. Worrell’s statement ]

 

For a closer look as to why his statements were put into question, read this: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6424

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Texas School Book Depository timeline:

 

12:00: Eddie Piper sees Oswald on the 1st floor of the TSBD.

 

12:00 – 12:10: (estimated time) Bonnie Ray Williams goes to the 6th floor to eat lunch (sees and hears no one) (?)

 

12:12: Carolyn Arnold sees Oswald in the hallway between front door and double doors a few minutes before 12:15

 

12:15 – 12:25: Carolyn Arnold sees Oswald in the 1st floor Lunch Room

 

12:15: Arnold Rowland sees a man with a rifle on the 6th floor West Window (slender, dark hair, light shirt open at neck; other man was "colored" hanging out of East corner window)

 

12:15– 12:20: Bonnie Ray Williams takes an elevator from the 6th to the 5th floor leaving partially eaten chicken behind (?) (sees and hears no one)

 

12:18: Howard Brennan sees a man on 6th floor (no rifle visible at this time). (white male, early30's, slender, 165-175 lbs, light clothing)

 

12:20- 12:25: Carolyn Arnold looks through glass door and sees Oswald inside on 1st floor near front of TSBD

 

12:26- 12:30: Ruby Henderson sees two men on 6th  or Top floor. One dark (Mexican or Negro), and was wearing a white shirt. The other man was the taller and lighter of the two

 

12:28: Richard Carr sees heavy set man, white, glasses, tan sport coat in 2nd window from East corner, 6th floor.

 

12:29: Carolyn Walther sees two men w/ Rifle in 5th floor SE corner Window. (one man wearing brown suit coat)

 

12:29: Robert Edwards see w/m in 6th floor SE corner window, light colored shirt, short sleeve, open neck, possibly thin

 

12:29: Ronald Fischer sees Man in 5th floor "right corner" window, man was laying down,could only see head, light headed and open neck shirt, man was in his twenties  (Fischer will later change floor to 6th and shots from 4 to 3.)

 

12:29 – 12:30: Geneva Hine notes the lights are out on her phone and that it doesn't work as the motorcade approaches TSBD.

 

12:30: Shots fired at JFK Limo.

 

12:30: Amos Euins sees a black man with rifle in 6th floor SE corner window (later changed to white man)

 

12:30: Howard Brennan sees white man with rifle in 6th floor SE corner window

 

12:30: Jack Dougherty is 10 feet west of West Elevator on 5th floor (within sight and sound of NW stairs); hears one shot.

 

12:30: Dillard Photo taken 3-15 seconds after shots shows Norman and Williams in SE 5th floor corner windows (and possibly Jarman in the 4th window from the SE corner). They say they run to West Window after shots.

 

12:31: Vicky Adams and Sandra Styles descend the NW rear stairs from the 4th floor to the 1st floor (see & hear no one).

 

12:31: Otis Williams runs up NW stairway to 4th floor (sees no one) goes back to his 2nd floor office (?)

 

12:31: Officer Baker enters TSBD front Entrance, goes to back w Truly, who shouts twice to release elevator. (no response). They see 2 white men by the elevators. (probably Shelley & Lovelady according to Adams)

 

12:31: Officer Barnett runs to guard back of TSBD (and Fire Escape on East Side).

 

12:31:30: Officer Baker and Roy Truly on 2nd floor by NW stairway; claim to see Oswald in lunch room.

 

12:32: HSCA analysis show boxes in 6th floor window rearranged within 2 minutes of shooting.

 

12:32 – 12:33: Mrs. Reid returns to her 2nd floor office. Oswald calmly walks by her with coke in hand.

 

12:32 – 12:33: Deputy Roger Craig arrests a woman in her early thirties attempting to drive out of a private railyard parking lot. She was in a brown 1962 or 1963 Chevrolet. Craig turns her over to Deputy Sheriff Lummy Lewis.

 

12:32– 12:36: Carr sees the same man he previously saw in the window, walk away from the TSBD and get into a Rambler Station Wagon

 

12:32– 12:33: Officer Baker sees man on 3rd or 4th floor, w/m, 30 yrs old, 5'9, 165 lb, dark hair, light brown jacket. Manager vouches for this man and Baker lets him go.  (Baker 11/22/63 affidavit)

 

12:33– 12:34: Officer Barnett moves from Back of TSBD to guard the Front entrance .

 

12:33: James Worrell sees a man in a dark sportcoat and light colored pants dash out of the back of the TSBD about 3 minutes after shots fired at motorcade. Man was late 20's /early 30's, 5'8", dark brown hair. Ran South on Houston.

 

12:33– 12:34: Dougherty takes West Elevator down to 1st floor. (?) Talks to Givens.

 

12:33– 12:34: Baker and Truly on 4th or 5th floor, spot East Elevator, but West elevator is missing

 

12:33– 12:36: Officers Mooney, Vickery and Webster arrive at 1st floor rear elevator. Vickery & Webster take stairs up. Mooney takes elevator up to 2nd floor, where power goes off, he switches to the stairs encounters "some men he believes to be officers" in plain clothes coming down the stairs. He passes these men and continues up.

 

12:33– 12:36: In his report of 11/23/63, Det. Harry Weatherford claims that he, Mooney, Boone, Walters, and Webster all went into the rear of the TSBD together and ascend the stairs. Weatherford goes out the window to search the roof of the loading dock, then comes back in and searches the first floor [sic] with an"unknown DPD Detective" (?)  Then he goes to the top floor and eventually joins Mooney & Co. on the 6th floor

 

12:34– 12:35: Lillian Mooneyham sees man standing behind boxes on 6th floor of TSBD.

 

12:34– 12:36: Officer Mooney arrives for first quick survey (does not go to "sniper lair") of 6th flloor, sees no one, then goes up to 7th floor.

 

12:34: Inspector Sawyer enters Front of TSBD, enters Passenger elevator; runs into "this Man"; goes up to 4th floor

 

12:35: Baker and Truly are on the roof of the TSBD

 

12:36: Euins tells Officer Harkness shots came from 5th floor TSBD

 

12:36– 12:37: Harkness arrives at rear (North Loading dock) door of TSBD. Sees "some Secret Service Agents".

 

12:37: Sawyer returns to 1st floor, goes out in front to set up Command Post.

 

12:40 – 12:45: Dep. Craig hears whistle. Sees light green Nash Rambler Station Wagon stop; sees w/m, 140-150, brown hair, in his 20's, white T shirt, runs down slope and gets inside. The Driver of the vehicle was husky latin, dark wavy hair, tan windbreaker jacket. Craig runs over to report this to the Command Post in front of the TSBD entrance and encounters a SS Agent ("40 years old, sandy-haired with a distinct cleft in his chin. He was well-dressed in a gray business suit")

 

12:45: Description of suspect broadcast by DPD: w/m, 30, 5'10, 165, 30-30 (Winchester Rifle on Channel 2)

 

12:50 – 12:55: SSA Forest Sorrels returns from Parkland Hospital to the rear entrance of the TSBD and enters the building with no one checking his ID, the first genuine SS Agent to arrive on the scene.

 

12:58: Captain Fritz arrives at front entrance of TSBD.

 

12:58: Mooney Leans out window and Signals Fritz, who is standing in front of TSBD (After leaving the 7th floor, Mooney, Vickery, and Webster went down to 6th floor, where Mooney discovered SE corner window "sniper lair", empty shells, chicken remnants and soda.

 

1:22: Boone and Weitzman discover Rifle they idenitfy as a 7.65 Mauser, concealed between boxes on the 6th floor

 

 

What stands out for me:

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12:28: Richard Carr sees heavy set man, white, glasses, tan sport coat in 2nd window from East corner, 6th floor.

 

12:32– 12:36: Carr sees the same man he previously saw in the window, walk away from the TSBD and get into a Rambler Station Wagon.

 

[ That's an interesting sighting - remember that Aquilla Clemons saw two men at 10th & Patton, one of which was heavy set?]

 

 

12:33: James Worrell sees a man in a dark sportcoat and light colored pants dash out of the back of the TSBD about 3 minutes after shots fired at motorcade. Man was late 20's /early 30's, 5'8", dark brown hair. Ran South on Houston.

 

[ South on Houston ... and then he lost sight of him in the confusion ] … South on Houston is the general direction towards Main Steeet.

 

12:45: Description of suspect broadcast by DPD: w/m, 30, 5'10, 165, 30-30 (Winchester Rifle on Channel 2)

 

[ How did they ever come up with a 30-30? ... did Arnold Rowland tell them this or did someone else? ]

 

 

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Tippit’s timeline:

 

12:43: – Tippit makes a telephone call from Top Ten Records

12:45: – a description of the Dealey Plaza shooter is broadcast over DPD Channels 1 & 2

12:46: – Tippit reports he is at Kiest & Bonnieview

12:46: – Oswald gets in Whaley’s cab

12:54: – Tippit reports he is at Lancaster & Eighth

12:56: – Tippit at Gloco station (sat there watching cars coming from downtown)

  1:03: – Tippit is contacted by dispatch for his location but no reply is given

  1:06: – Tippit leaves the Gloco station and heads south on Lancaster at a high rate of speed

  1:10: – T.F. Bowley uses Tippits radio to let the police know an officer has been killed at 10th & Patton

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