The evidence | november1963

E v i d e n c e & s t a t e m e n t s p a r t 1

Above we see a very well-known photograph of the Texas School Book Depository taken by Tom Dillard of the Dallas Morning News.

The one on the right is his original. The one on the left was cropped (perhaps by an FBI photographer) to cover up the open window of the other corner of the sixth floor. Why the need to hide that window if they were so sure the shots came from the South East corner window?

Back to the Oak Clif shooting:

If Oswald left his boarding house at 1026 North Beckley at 1:04 pm, on foot, there is no way he could have made it to the Texas Theater on West Jefferson Avenue in just 3 minutes. So after he left the house at 1:04 pm, where did he go?

Could someone have driven him to West Jefferson Avenue just in time for Butch Burroughs to see him?

Doubtful, because no one saw him get out of a car on West Jefferson Ave. But it's not impossible.

Also, why drive him to the theater? Ask yourself this: if you were guilty of killing the president of the United States, would you stay in the city he was killed in? Or leave and go into hiding? Sure Oswald was intelligent, and could have thought that if he disappeared, he’d sure look guilty, but a sane man would keep himself out of sight. Lay low for a few days. The assassination took place on a Friday, which would have helped him get away during the weekend. If he had decided to lay low, or go into hiding, and then not show up for work the next Monday, he would have looked awfully suspicious, wouldn’t he?

He was already dumb enough to have left the crime scene at Houston and Elm Streets without permission.

Perhaps he thought they wouldn’t think twice about his involvement.

There are only two reasons for him to go to the Texas Theater at the time: either he went to go watch a movie, since he didn't have anything better to do with his time off, or, and this is very likely if he was involved with the assassination on any level, to meet a contact.

And there is reason to suspect that the latter isn't the case (I'll get back to that later).

Now, if we include the possibility that Earleane Roberts either lied, or was mistaken, about Oswald coming home at 1:01 pm on Nov 22, 1963:

Lee Oswald leaves TSBD at 12:33 … tries the bus …. takes cab at 12:48 to 500 block of N. Beckley … arrives 12:53 at the 700 block

of N. Beckley, (corner of Neely & Beckley) where Oswald says “this will do fine”

(from 700 block to 1026 N. Beckley takes approx. 7 min walk) … arrival time of 1:01 pm is possible)

… Neely & Beckley to theater is approx. 14 min walk … arrival approx. 1:07 pm …. seen by Butch Burroughs

Billy Seymour leaves Dealey Plaza in Nash Rambler driven by his partner … drives to Oak Cliff … kills Tippit at 1:04 pm … tosses jacket

at corner Jefferson & Crawford … stiff pace to West Jefferson … spotted by Brewer … enters theater without paying ... (is 'arrested' in the balcony … taken out the back to the alley ... gets in police car - no record of his arrest)

Circled above is 1026 N. Beckley, the boarding house where Lee Oswald rented a room. Also marked are X, Y, and Z.

The red X is the corner of Neeley & Beckley, where Oswald got out of the cab at 12:53 pm. The blue Y is where Patrolman Tippit was murdered. The black Z is the Texas Theater, where Oswald was arrested at 1:49 pm.

This is one of two possible routes Oswald could have taken from his drop off point at the corner of Neely & Beckley, but of course he could have taken a multitude of streets and turns and so on. But his walking time would have been around 14 minutes.

Of course we need to assume he had nothing to do with the death of Patrolman Tippit.

The cops, the Secret Service, the Dallas Sheriff’s office, and the FBI now know where Oswald is.

Was it Seymour's assignment to draw attention to where Oswald would be??

https://jfkplayersandwitnesses.wordpress.com/tag/billy-seymour/

Now, let’s talk clothing for a second:

The cab driver saw Oswald wearing a brown shirt and grey jacket. (odd, since he forgot his jacket in the domino room of the TSBD)

When Oswald was arrested at the theater he was wearing a white shirt, and a brown shirt.

Could the cabdriver have mixed up the colors, were these two different men, or did Oswald actually change his clothes?

According to a witness on the street, the shooter in the Sniper’s Nest of the book depository was wearing a khaki shirt.

The man Aquilla Clemons saw with the killer of Officer Tippit was also wearing a khaki shirt.

According to Charles Givens, a co-worker of Oswald, Lee always wore light green/blue shirt and pants to work, as well as a grey jacket.

And now for the other very important piece of evidence: the rifle.

Oddly enough, there were several rifles in the building that week between Wednesday the 20th and Friday the 22nd:

rifles in the TSBD specifics http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?topic=256.0;wap2

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7.65 mm Mauser the rifle Roger Craig claims had been brought down from the roof

6.5 mm Mannlicher-Carcano 40-inch Oswald owned a 36-inch Carcano (see Klein’s shipping document)

.22 rifle (remington 510 ??) owned by Warren Caster, a Christmas present for his son

30-06 Mauser sporterized conversion owned by Warren Caster, a hunting rifle for himself

Remington 8 Detective Boyd was seen carrying this out, but never into the TSBD

According to William “Bill” Shelley, employee of the Texas School Book Depository to Mr. Bell at the Warren Commission hearing:

Mr. SHELLEY - "Yes; I believe there was a .30-06 Mauser that had been converted. It was a foreign make converted to a .30-06."

This confirms the statement of Arnold Rowland seeing a man with a 30-06 rifle in the SW window!

TESTIMONY OF ELIZABETH "DEARIE" CABELL [wife of Dallas mayor Cabell]

Mrs. CABELL - ".....somewhere in there ( during the shot sequence ), Congressman Roberts said, "That is a .30-06." I didn't know what a .30-06 was."

What clears Oswald of the crimes at Dealey Plaza:

Victoria Adams (4th floor window)

Ms. Victoria Adams, an office employee on the 4th floor of the Texas School Book Depository, was hanging out of an open window, with several of her colleagues, watching the motorcade pass through Dealey Plaza.

In a statement to the Warren Commission she said: "And we heard a shot, and it was a pause, and then a second shot, and then a third shot. It sounded like a firecracker or a cannon at a football game, it seemed as if it came from the right below rather than from the left above. Possibly because of the report."

Carolyn Arnold

Oswald must have been working on the first floor, because Eddie Piper, a colleague of Oswald’s, claimed that he was on the first floor when, “at 12:00 Noon, this fellow Lee says to me, ‘I’m going up to eat’”.
This corroborates the statement made by Carolyn Arnold, who had seen Oswald in the second floor lunchroom, which was some time between 12:15 and 12:25 pm.
She said he “was sitting there … in one of the booth seats on the right–hand side of the room as you go in. He was alone as usual and appeared to be having lunch. I did not speak to him but I recognized him clearly.”
At around 12:25 pm, Oswald went back downstairs to the first floor lunchroom (also known as the domino room), where he was seen by James "Junior" Jarman and Harold Norman, who were photographed hanging out the 5th floor window 5 minutes later, at the time of the shooting. This was around the same time Carolyn Arnold went outside to watch the motorcade with Virgie Rackley.

The latter stated to the WC that “at about 12:15pm … she left her office”.
It's very possible they left their office together.

Because Carolyn Arnold and Lee Oswald were on both floors, around roughly the same time, it could explain why in two different statements, Ms. Arnold seems to confuse the two lunchrooms.
Then, at 12:31, Oswald is seen in the second floor lunchroom again, this time by Patrolman Marrion Baker and TSBD supervisor, Roy Truly, where Oswald, later stated he, went to get a Coke.

It would seem that Oswald couldn't sit still very long, as if perhaps a bit nervous. Or to be noticed.

Arnold Rowland saw a man with a rifle around 12:15pm in the SW corner window

Arnold Louis Rowland stated to the Warren Commission: "We looked and at that time I noticed on the sixth floor of the building that there was a man back from the window, not hanging out of the window." ... "Yes, this was on the West corner of the building ..."

He also witnessed a 'colored boy' on the corner of Houston and Elm having an epileptic seizure. This could this have been the boy who was there with Amos Euins. This boy ran off as soon as he heard the first shot, according to Howard Brennan as told to Forrest Sorrels.

When asked about the rifle, he described it as a " ... in proportion to the scope it appeared to me to be a .30-odd size 6, a deer rifle with a fairly large or powerful scope."

Go back to the top of this page and notice the open window on the left (West) they tried to hide by cropping the picture.

His description of that SW window gunman to Arlen Specter before the Warren Commission:

"He was rather slender in proportion to his size. I couldn't tell for sure whether he was tall and maybe, you know heavy, say 200 pounds, but tall whether he would be and slender or whether he was medium and slender, but in proportion to his size his build was slender."

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Mr. SPECTER - "Was he a white man or a Negro or what?"

Mr. ROWLAND - "Seemed, well, I can't state definitely from my position because it was more or less not fully light or bright in the room. He appeared to be fair complexioned, not fair, but light complexioned, but dark hair."

Mr. SPECTER - "What race was he then?"

Mr. ROWLAND - "I would say either a light Latin or a Caucasian."

Mr. SPECTER - "And were you able to observe any characteristics of his hair?"

Mr. ROWLAND - "No; except that it was dark, probably black."

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Mr. SPECTER - "What, if anything, did you observe as to the clothes he was wearing?"

Mr. ROWLAND - "He had on a light shirt, a very light-colored shirt, white or a light blue or a color such as that. This was open at the collar. I think it was unbuttoned about halfway, and then he had a regular T-shirt, a polo shirt under this, at least this is what it appeared to be. He had on dark slacks or blue jeans, I couldn't tell from that I didn't see but a small portion."

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Mr. SPECTER - "Did you have any impression or reaction as to the point of origin when you heard the first noise?"

Mr. ROWLAND - "Well, I began looking, I didn’t look at the building mainly, and as practically any of the police officers that were there then will tell you, the echo effect was such that it sounded like it came from the railroad yards. That is where I looked, that is where all the policemen, everyone, converged on the railroads."

This is how convinced Mr. Rowland was that he had seen a Secret Service man in the West window of that book depository.

Mr. SPECTER - "Now, as to the second shot, did you have any impression as to the point of origin or source?"

Mr. ROWLAND - "The same point or very close to it."

Mr. SPECTER - "And how about the third shot?"

Mr. ROWLAND - "Very close to the same position."

Mr. SPECTER - "Where did you look. if you recall, after you heard the/first shot, in what direction?"

Mr. ROWLAND - "We were standing here at position “B.” At the sound of the second report, I proceeded across the street. My wife was very anxious to find out what was going on. I proceeded to cross the street like this."

After the shots had all been fired, Mr. Rowland never looked at the book depository.

Mr. SPECTER - "After the shots occurred, did you ever look back at the Texas School Book Depository Building?"

Mr. ROWLAND - "No; I did not. In fact, I went over toward the scene of the railroad yards myself."

Mr. SPECTER - "Why did you not look back at the Texas School Book Depository Building in view of the fact that you had seen a man with a rifle up there earlier in the day?"

Mr. ROWLAND - "I don’t remember. It was mostly due to the confusion, and then the fact that it sounded like it came from this area “C,” and that all the officers, enforcement officers, were converging on that area, and I just didn’t pay any attention to it at that time."

Mr. SPECTER - "How many officers were converging on that area, to the best of your ability to recollect and estimate?"

Mr. ROWLAND - "I think it would be a very good estimation of 50, maybe more."

The real shooter, whomever that was, waited in the West corner, standing patiently like a solder, until Bonnie Ray Williams left the East corner window to join his co-workers one floor lower. I can’t help but wonder what would have happened if Williams hadn’t left that corner.

Would the shooter have risked it all and fired from the West corner window? Or would he have aborted the mission altogether?

Perhaps in the hopes the grassy knoll shooter, and perhaps another back-up shooter, would suffice in completing the mission?

Amos Euins (across from the book depository)

Amos Euins, a young Negro boy standing next to the fountain on the corner of Houston and Elm, right across from the Texas School Book Depository, claims to have seen the shooter in the East window of the 6th floor of that building. But the description of the shooter he gave to the police, the FBI, and the Warren Commission didn’t match Oswald. Not one little bit.

He said the shooter had a bald spot on his head, and he saw a pipe, or rifle barrel, sticking out of the window.

Mr. SPECTER - "And how long was the piece of pipe that you saw?"
Mr. EUINS - "It was sticking out about that much."
Mr. SPECTER - "About 14 or 15 inches?"
Mr. EUINS - "Yes, sir. And then after I seen it sticking out, after awhile, that is when I heard the shot, and everybody started looking around."

Well ladies and gentleman, take a look at the picture of the Mannlicher-Carcano they found, and then take a look at the picture of one of the various available Mauser 30-06 models.

6.5 mm Mannlicher-Carcano 30-06 Mauser (like the one owned by Warren Caster)

Which of these rifles has such a long barrel? A Mauser M12 30-06 (the rifle on the right) actually has a 22” barrel and is 42” in overall length.

If Amos Euins is clear and certain about what he saw, then he did NOT see the barrel of a Mannlicher-Carcano sticking out of the East window, but the barrel of a converted Mauser 30-06. If it was in fact an M12 or something similar, I don’t know.

I'm not the world's leading expert of rifles, but the fact remains that there are similar 30-06 rifles with similar barrel lengths.

But Mr. Euins had a few more important things to say:

Mr. SPECTER - "Now, describe as fully as you can for us what you saw then, Amos."
Mr. EUINS - "Well, when he stuck it out, you know--after the President had come on down the street further, you know he kind of stuck it out more, you know."
Mr. SPECTER - "How far was it sticking out of the window would you say then, Amos?"
Mr. EUINS - "I would say it was about something like that."
Mr. SPECTER - "Indicating about 3 feet?"
Mr. EUINS - "You know--the trigger housing and stock and receiver group out the window."
Mr. SPECTER - "I can't understand you, Amos."
Mr. EUINS - "It was enough to get the stock and receiving house and the trigger housing to stick out the window."
Mr. SPECTER - "The stock and receiving house?"
Mr. EUINS - "Yes."

In the mean time the investigative teams were focused on finding the gunman, trying to find out just what happened, and how security was breached so easily. What no one counted on was a third wounded man at Dealey Plaza. A man who had been standing by the triple underpass, between Commerce Street and Main Street, and who was apparently nicked by either a bullet fragment, or a fragment of cement that got hit by a bullet (fragment). This man eventually left Dealey Plaza at approximately 12:45 pm and proceeded to the nearest police station to tell them what he had seen and heard, and what had happened to him.

Let's go read about him.